“As to the Virgin Birth… I would cite the very ancient, but astute Akkadain proverb: ina la na-kimi-i e-rat-me in la a-ka-li-me ka-ab-rat (They say: ‘Could she be pregnant without sexual intercourse; could she be fat without eating?’) G.W. Lambert, Babylonian Wisdom Literature, Oxford University Press, 1960; p. 241 ii 40-42.”—Harry H. McCall, commenting at Debunking Christianity
Does this verse count when Christians utter all kinds of evil against homosexuals or non-Christians falsely using their religion as an excuse? How about when Christians pretend that their all-loving god will BURN ETERNALLY IN HELL WITH NO HOPE OF REDEMPTION all non-christians solely because of their religion? Or how about when Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians defame scientists by pushing “creationism” and “intelligent design”? Or how about when the Catholic Church spreads lies about condom use, or condemns homosexuality and abortion while systematically covering up child abuse? Are these not evils falsely inflicted in the name of Jesus…?
“The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”—Albert Einstein, in a letter responding to philosopher Eric Gutkind, who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt; quoted from James Randerson, “Childish Superstition: Einstein’s Letter Makes View of Religion Relatively Clear: Scientist’s Reply to Sell for up to £8,000, and Stoke Debate over His Beliefs” The Guardian, (13 May 2008) [First Quote] (via viraldi)
“God: Noah, all the people of earth are sinners. You alone are righteous.
Noah: Thanks God. Long time fan, first time prophet.
God: So, I have decided to smite the entire world with a flood.
Noah: Couldn’t you just teach man goodness?
God: No. I’m thinking “flood”.
Noah: So you’d rather just kill every-
God: What part of “flood” do you not understand?”—(via kalliades)
“You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?”—Dan Barker (via fightthefaith)
“”Today, my Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to “honour” thy Father and thy Mother, she asked, “Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters?” Without missing a beat, one little boy answered, “Thou shalt not kill.” MLIA””
This bit of Bible gibberish got me thinking about one of the many, many, many verses of the Bible Christians routinely ignore:
"If anyone comes to me [Jesus] and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. He then added: And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26
WTF does that mean? Luckily we have teh interwebz to explain it to us:
"One commentary points out that in the culture of Judea, this word “hate” was simply a descriptive way of saying to love less. In fact, as Matthew tells this same story in chapter 10, Jesus puts it:Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me." - Biblebay
"Jesus may have chosen the word "hate" to show us that this is how a mother or father will perceive the actions of a child that chooses the Lord above them. They will see it as disloyal, especially if we try to witness to them. The love of a Christian for a non-Christian is almost always seen as hatred, intolerance, bigotry, etc. But we must be okay with being seen as "hating." After all, our unbelieving relatives are part of the world” and Jesus said, “"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first” (John 15:18)." - GotQuestions
As you can see, these morons think God actually wants them to be bigoted, ignorant, narrow-minded, unpleasant, arrogant, rude arseholes. And they want to be able to tell everyone else how to live their lives. How feckin’ lovely.
“We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It’s one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it’s another to think that yours is the only path.”—
Jesus knew who he was! “Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always, but because of the people which stand by, I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.” - John 11:41 This…. is how we should operate! We have the same position as Christ, because we are IN Him. We have been redeemed. So start acting like it! Grab hold of who you are, enter into His throne room boldly! It will produce legit confidence in your daily life and walk.
The Gospel according to “John” was written anonymously, probably 60 or 70 years after the death of Jesus, by someone who never met him.
So how do we know that the Bible accurately reports what Jesus says? We don’t.
I don't think the point of worshipping God is so much that He "requires" it of us, but that we should because He's so worthy of it. A lot of people have it wrong in that way - It should be a choice because you as an individual want to worship Him, not because you're going to Hell if you don't.
Sorry, but that is gibberish. If God “requires” anything from us he is by definition imperfect. I note also that you still seem to think we go to “hell” if we don’t worship God. What is it with Christians? You all seem to have such a low opinion of “god”… Like he’s an infinitely insecure asshole.
“For some reason Jesus could preach about sexual purity, yet prostitutes still felt loved enough to hang around him.”
But what did Jesus preach about sexual purity?
Burton L. Mack is John Wesley Professor emeritus in early Christianity at the Claremont School of Theology in Claremont, California. His analysis of the earliest Christian teachings tells a very different story from that you might be used to. ReligiousTolerance.org summarise Mack thus:
"What is remarkable… is that the original Christians appeared to be centered totally on concerns about their relationships with God and with other people, and their preparation for the imminent arrival of Kingdom of God on earth. Totally absent from their spiritual life are almost all of the factors that we associate with Christianity today. There is absolutely no mention of (in alphabetic order): adultery, angels, apostles, baptism, church, clergy, confirmation, crucifixion, demons, disciples, divorce, Eucharist, great commission to convert the world, healing, heaven, hell, incarnation, infancy stories, John the Baptist, Last Supper, life after death, Mary and Joseph and the rest of Jesus’ family, magi, miracles, Jewish laws concerning behavior, marriage, Messiah, restrictions on sexual behavior, resurrection, roles of men and women, Sabbath, salvation, Satan, second coming, signs of the end of the age, sin, speaking in tongues, temple, tomb, transfiguration, trial of Jesus, trinity, or the virgin birth.”
According to Mack, almost everything we associate with Christianity today was added to the teachings of Jesus in the decades and centuries after his death.
So how about Paul? His letters are the earliest surviving Christian documents. They too mention sexual purity - or do they?
William O. Walker, Jr., is Jennie Farris Railey King Professor Emeritus of Religion at Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas. He argues that the calls for sexual and religious purity narrated in Romans 1.18–2.29 were not written by Paul, but were in fact added in the decades after Paul’s death.
So what did Jesus have to say about sexual purity? If we want to be honest, it’s fair to say that we just don’t know… Now, how many pastors and christians are prepared to admit that?
It doesn't say there that you will go to Hell for not having faith, and I certainly don't believe that. To me, this is saying nothing of the sort - in my eyes it's saying that EVERYONE is saved by God's grace and that through that grace you will find faith in Him.
It's the writings of St Paul, not the direct word of God so I would never take it as anything more than what man has to say about God anyway.
Go ahead and shoot me down in flames if you like. My beliefs should be challenged, it's half the reason I'm on tumblr :)
Hi… Me too :)
Here’s (supposedly) the words of Jesus from Mark 6:11
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."
Is that not intolerance? Is that not the word of God?
(Again the only justification could be “God can be intolerant if he wants to because he is God” - and that seems rather odd reasoning to me…)
“The ultimate question is whether the doctrine of the goodness of God or that of the inerrancy of Scriptures is to prevail when they conflict. I think the doctrine of the goodness of God is the more certain of the two indeed, only that doctrine renders this worship of Him obligatory or even permissible.”—
C. S. Lewis, July 3, 1963, letter to John Beversluis
It’s nice to see C S Lewis wasn’t completely credulous when it came to his chosen religion…